had a tough weekly phone call with our teen daughter 16 y/o ~E yesterday … and it is getting to me today. she has been out of the home for 10 months now (including the runaway time, another hospital stay, and the long term residential treatment center (RTC) in utah where she still is. she had been doing better for past few weeks (since she finally decided to actually do her school work … for two years plus, that has been an ongoing struggle to get her to do school work and not fail everything).
yesterday’s phone call was miserable. she is doing poorly again (thankfully, she is still doing her schoolwork though). but why does she have to be so angry and difficult?
i felt guilty that i just wanted so bad to get off the phone call and i was watching the clock counting down when i could go. the weekly phone calls are with me, hubby/daddy, therapist, and daughter.
she keeps getting into trouble lately with peer relations. physical stuff, hitting, etc. i don’t get it. she sounds so mad. she claims it’s everybody else and not her fault, but many peers and many staff keep saying the same thing … that it is her … she bugs peers (teases, “jokes” with when they don’t want her there) and some of them finally can’t stand it anymore and smack her i guess.
she says something different, but all the others say the same thing. i tend to believe the masses. not sure though.
~E’s therapist (and us) tried to convince her yesterday that she needs to write down every altercation and write down if she goes to a staff member to report it and what happens. her therapist said she would go with ~E to confront every staff member with her to talk about anything that ~E doesn’t feel is resolved. ~E kept saying she doesn’t want anybody’s help. she says she feels like a “baby” if everyone does everything for her.
we tried to convince her that it is okay to get help, not to have “everything” done for you, but okay to get some help.
and tried to convince her that her therapist is her advocate and if she can help her resolve something (if she feels she is not being listened to by staff) we want her to let her therapist try to help the situation. ~E was very reluctant but did agree she would try this.
i feel like a horrible mom because i was just sad/disappointed/upset and wanted so bad to be off of the phone call.
we are supportive of what her therapist recommends. and the therapist is easy to talk with. she seems genuine with ~E that she would help her through this if ~E would give her a chance to help
~E is so stubborn and not seeing that everything she is involved in is making a difference in how much longer she stays at the RTC. i want her to come home, but not before she is truly ready to. i/we trust that the staff and therapist will not recommend her release until she is really ready to leave. miss her. i miss her, but i want her to come back … when her therapist says she is ready to.
i guess i shouldn’t whine … but i am human and i am hurting. she is hurting, too. this must be so hard for her. other people have much much bigger things to deal with. i tell you, everytime i see a high needs physical special needs kid/family, i just feel guilty for any of my own whining. i feel for families that have such hard things to deal with. and everytime i see my family friend ~M’s eyes water because of his now grown daughter who has continuously put their family through stress and pure torture since she was about 14 y/o when she ran away the first time, … my heart just aches for him and his family. his adult daughter has never outgrown her drama … her stuff … she is a mess as an adult too, and has a kid too. so how can i whine? i hug my friend, but that is nothing to offer … but my hugs, my shoulder, and my listening ear are all i really have to offer.
what a mess. i shouldn’t write a post while i am choking on tears that keep coming. i want this chapter to be over with already. why does it have to drag on?
it occurred to me today that she has now been gone for 10 months (and she was so painfully hard to live with for the couple years prior to that run away time. she was like living with “dr jekle and mr hyde … one extreme or the other .. you never knew what you would be dealing with each day, but it was typically an extreme between the two. overall, she has improved since getting help, but she still has a way to go.
i want her to “get it” at the RTC. i want her to move on. i want her to grow up and learn what she must. i don’t want her to come back until her therapist thinks she is ready. i am in no hurry to push that along prematurely. i want her to get what she must out of this treatment program, so the rest of her life will be better hopefully.
i know nobody can do it for her. she has to do this in her way when she is ready. this can’t be any easier, can it?
but you know what happened?
when i drove my other teen daughter to school this morning (she needed a ride because she took something big to school today), i couldn’t help but notice how incredibly beautiful and sunny it was/is outside. the view could not have been more perfect. the sun was set on just the right temperature. the birds really were singing a song .. for me? i looked all around me again and again and just soaked it in. i hesitated to go inside. i didn’t want to miss any of it. (i can still hear the birds singing.) how can anything feel cruddy when there is this amazing landscape – God’s masterpiece – all around me? His fingerprints are in everything i see … the mountains are perfect … the blues, the greens, and the white snow atop. the sun is feeling perfect today. and the ground looks new again as spring is making its way into our lives again. i forgot to notice my breathtaking view for a few days. i am noticing the nature around me today. taking a deep breath again .. and savoring.
a friend told me today that we have ”brick walls” in our lives, but we are also blessed by facing them. i remember this. some of the best things in life that i am the most grateful for were the hardest to get and fight for. she also reminded me that we can’t forget it takes effort to climb a mountain – but what a reward when we do.
want to let the light back in.
a little peace, kathleen



(((((HUGS)))))
If you need more light….I’ve got a flashlight. I’ll shine it on you. :0) I can’t imagine what you are going through, but know that we aren’t given anything we can’t handle. I’m rooting for your daughter. My neice went through something similar and she is now doing fabulous. SO, I know RTC’s can work! :0)
This is a post I need a minute to read … after the hubby quits yelling at me and leaves for the day.
I’l lbe back!
I’m so sorry you’re hurting. {{hugs}}
Oh Kathleen. I’m so sorry to hear. The entire time while reading this, I wish I could be there to offer my hugs, my shoulder, and my listening ears. So instead, I’ll send it virtually. *hugs* Hang in there. I’m here for you anytime.
Sorry you had such a bad call with your daughter. It isn’t easy being who she is, and not easy for you to watch her, but maybe you are exactly who she needs to make it through. Take care of you.
As a parent and a teacher of students with emotional/behavioral disabilities, my heart goes out to you. If your daughter’s issues stem from a chemical inbalance, I hope that her doctors can help her get stabilized. If it stems from some kind of trauma, I pray that she can trust enough to dig into it and help your family heal. I’ll keep you in my prayers..
Hey Beany,
Sorry it took me a bit to get into a mood where I could read something heavy and be helpful and uplifting. But I’m there now and ready to help!
And this happens to be one of my specialties, as Tigger would say.
OK. My son went through this “I hate Mom” thing where it seemed like I couldn’t do anything right. No matter what I did “I” was the source of conflict. Dad did everything right, I did everything wrong and he wanted to move out and live with his dad cuz it was gonna be all rosy. I was super hurt, and was trying to hold on to ALL OF THE STRAWS … his grades, his behavior, his relationships with friends, sisters, little brother … I wanted my hands in all of his pies because he had them out of control and I wanted to control them so I could fix them.
The solution turned out to be just letting go of ALL of it and focusing on ONE MESSAGE. The only message I have EVER wanted to hear from anyone when I was upset myself. The message God gives me when I am out of it, unlovable, and I know for a fact that no one wants me around because I am so difficult. “I love you, and I trust you.” He does. All of us. Look at the range of decisions being made all around us. Lots of people are making terrible choices… even murdering other people … but Heavenly Father hasn’t taken away their free agency. He wants to leave the decision making to each of us. He JUST LOVES US. That’s it. Sure He offers guidance, but He doesn’t try to control our choices. So that’s where I took my lesson from. I just need to let him live his life, and in those few precious moments when he is actually listening to me, all he is going to hear from me is I LOVE YOU. I love you I love you I love you. I hit someone. Gosh, sounds like you had a rough day. I love you. I’m flunking. Gosh, sounds like you need a plan. Bet you’ll come up with a super one cuz your so smart. I love you.
And the second thing was putting things in writing. He was always saying that I wasn’t keeping my word and he didn’t trust me. But he wasn’t hearing my “promises” the way I was making them. He was putting his spin or understanding on them. So we WROTE DOWN OUR AGREEMENTS. For instance, when he’s ticked and can’t cope, he says “Diamino” and it means he gets 10 minutes to escape to his room and chill … to just cool off. Before that I never knew he was so mad, but him saying diamino (he chose the word) let me know, and I honored our contract. He says the word, no matter what we are doing I drop everything, shut up, and let him go to his room. Anything I promised him we wrote down together. What is your understanding of what I am promising to do? We wrote it down. And whenever he started to say I wasn’t doing what I promised, I showed him the paper … oh … yeah … I thought you said this though! Nope … you might want to negotiate that item a little more clearly next time or we could renegotiate it now if you want to, but can you see that I have been keeping my word? Yes. It only took a couple of months of I love you, I’ll give up what I want so you can have this freedom you say you need, and I am keeping all of my promises to you … it only took a few months of that before he came to me and said: You are one of only a few people I trust … and Dad isn’t one of the people I trust.
Whew. That was a long comment, huh? But I really hope that something I said might help you.
And if nothing else, don’t beat yourself up for being uncomfortable in an uncomfortable situation. We all feel that way plenty of times I’m sure. There are so many times that I want to hang up on Mr. Wendster (cuz he’s just kinda boring and wants to talk for so long … and I’m just looking at the clock like .. I so want to hang up now!) So I actually laughed when you said that cuz I do the same thing … and I know I shouldn’t. But I want to. LOL.
OK. I hope this helps. And remember that “It came to pass … it didn’t come to stay” … I got that one from a wise woman I met through blogging.
Hugs!
Wendster bo bendster
p.s. Forgot to say … our relationship is CLOSE now. Of all four of my children, I feel the most at ease now with the relationship that looked the most doomed. Last year you NEVER would have convinced me that it would be good now. I thought for sure we wouldn’t even be seeing each other now, and if we did it would just be strained, or “hey … ok … bye” and he’d be off again. He was truly ANGRY. And anything I said that set him off, it was like zero to 60 in 5 … except he went from OK to FURIOUS!!! in .5
But it’s tender and loving now and I am so thankful for that.
I like what your friend said. Facing that brick wall WAS hard … but only until I let go and let God handle all of the details. I just made sure he knew I loved him.
Just trying to clarify.
My eyes were hurting tonight, so to read your post I cut and pasted it to Microsoft works and BAM, 139 pages of posts cut and pasted ! Wow! Photos too! I had been wanting to see photos, so I was tickled.
So I just spent about an hour reading up on you and getting to know you better, and now I have a question: Will you please share your waist reduction tip? You lost 3.5 inches off of your waist since January … how? It seems like my waist doesn’t get much smaller ever.
How is the goal going now?
Need any support?
Just let me know, buddy!
hi sue bear — awh, thanks. hey, but thanks especially for the super long phone call yesterday my sweet friend. i love getting to talk on the phone with you all the time.
hi ashlee — so sweet, thank you. did you hear me say “awh” when i read your flashlight comment?
hi wendy bendy — wow, thanks. i love it how you send me such long and kind notes. glad for you that you and your son improved and have a much better relationship now. so cute how you quoted when i quoted something before. you made me smile. the goal is progressing but slowly. i lost inches because i stopped eating as much and cut back on serving sizes, i do lots of male style push-ups, i run up and down stairs, stuff like that. still have a long way to go though baby. thanks for the kind words last night. and your progress is awesome. and i feel so special that you went through all that and put that together just cause of me. you are a dear.
hi TARa — thanks sweetie. right back at ya my littermate.
hi sandy — awh, thanks, you are so kind. thanks for the little notes you send me.
hi jane — wow, i love the way you made that point. you got to me. thanks.
hi half past — i’ve seen you all over the blogosphere. can’t miss that wild name you came up with. welcome first timer. thanks for commenting. she is connected up with all the services/resources they think she needs. thanks for your kind thoughts. come back anytime.
peace today, kathleen
Happy to be a helper.
Wendster
sending big warm hugs from Texas!! I am so sorry for the pain. I love your above new quote, and hope you can find peace in your turmoil.
((great big squishy hugs))
Oh, I wish I had encouraging things to say. I almost feel like we all have to have at least one of these children to keep us humble… Like Wendy, I too am super close to the one I’ve gone through so much heartache with. And there have been numerous times when I watched the clock for the end of the phone call– just as I”m sure my Mom had with me when I was as difficult. Hang in there– and foremost, don’t beat yourself up!!
hi wendy bendy — you are much more than that. thank you.
hi corrine — awh, thank you.
hi lena beana — awh, those are THEE best kind. thanks my friend.
hi hostage — you make such a great point. trying not to beat myself up.
peace, kathleen
It sounds like you really think she is in a good place–you’re not questioning whether they can help her. If that’s so, then it’s just about trusting the process. But I’m sure it feels waaay toooo long. I’m so sorry you’re having to struggle with this.
Kathleen–I’m so sorry to be so late in reading this post. What a night! I can’t say “I know what you’re going through,” but I can say that I care and am sending giant hugs your way. Most of all, I’m glad you had that moment when you saw God all around you–He’s so amazing that way. Sometimes just when I feel the lonliest, something small and common catches my attention, like a bird or a breeze, and reminds me I’m not alone at all.
hi elizabeth — thank you. yes, i believe she is right where she needs to be. thanks for the talk the other night.
hi angela — awh, thanks, so sweet of you to say. so true, all around us.
night night, kathleen
Hey, Kathleen–I empathize with you so much right now. I don’t have kids, but still…I can only imagine what you’re going through. Just remember that God doesn’t give you more than you can handle. I can’t say why God allows stuff like this to happen…that gets into that whole “Why do bad things happen to good people?” question–but ‘the rain falls and the sun shines on the just and the unjust’ (it’s in the Bible somewhere, trust me!), but I can tell you that if it makes you a better person, or more empathetic, or changes your life somehow…well then, my dear, you’ve made lemonade out of lemons.
hi jim — you are such a dear. thank you, beany
Prayers to you and your family at this trying time…. I cannot imagine what you all must be going through.
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